Just hours before Congress passed a funding bill last night, David Stockman appeared on CNBC to explain why the United States needs to experience a dramatic government shutdown. He argues, like Peter Schiff, that US debt is a massive bubble waiting to burst. Though one of the CNBC anchors agreed with him, another argued that the US debt load is very manageable. They also disputed his claim that the Federal Reserve is the main culprit behind America’s “fiscal paralysis.”

[The debt load] is not manageable at all, because thanks to Yellen and her merry band of money printers, we are not paying the true cost of the debt. This year, it’s $230 billion on $13 trillion of public [debt]. That’s 1.75%. That’s ridiculous. When it normalizes – which it will someday – we’ll be paying $400-500 billion more at a minimum. So I blame the Fed. The Fed is the number one culprit in this whole fiscal paralysis, because it’s told all the politicians, ‘You can kick the can, you can dodge the bullet.’”

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