One upon a time, back in early 2012, David Rosenberg was a prominent bear and deflationist, while his nemesis, Wells Capital’s Jim Paulsen, was one of Wall Street’s biggest equity bulls. The confrontation between the two culminated with a January 2012 article explaining “What (If Anything) The Bulls Are Seeing.”

Since then, Rosenberg infamously flip-flopped to bullish (predicting incorrectly that wages would rise and TSY prices would tumble), while Jim Paulsen, almost exactly a year ago, threw in the permabull towel and warned on January 10 of 2015 that “stocks are massively overvalued.”

Paulsen laid out his skepticism in the stocks are massively overvalued:

  • First, the valuations of U.S. stocks are much higher today than widely perceived or as suggested by the valuation of the popular S&P 500 Index. Moreover, today’s valuation extreme is not limited only to a subset of stock market sectors but rather is very widespread whereby nearly all P/E multiple percentiles are at or close to post-war records. Finally, the current valuation extreme is not the result of poor performance from a single valuation metric. U.S. stocks are broadly and richly priced compared to earnings, cash flows, and book values.
  • Second, because valuation dispersion is relatively low today, there are not many areas to hide from overvaluation. In 1973 or 2000, investors could reduce extraordinary valuation risk by simply diversifying away from the Nifty Fifty or new era tech stocks. Today, because values are both high and tight, lessening valuation risk may not be possible except by allocating away from U.S. stocks.
  • Third, this valuation extreme has only recently materialized. Charts 2, 3, and 4 show that until 2014, although median stock valuations were relatively high, they were not at the acute or record highs they are at today. Indeed, the current excessive valuation profile is a product of this recovery cycle. The median U.S. stock began this bull market below 12 times earnings in 2009. In the last five years, however, the median P/E multiple has risen by about two-thirds to slightly more than 20 times earnings. It is important for investors to fully appreciate just how much this bull market has already elevated the valuation landscape.
  • Fourth, is the current widespread valuation extreme more dangerous than a concentrated extreme simply because concentrated extremes tend to be more obvious and eye-catching? When the Nifty Fifty or dot-com stocks exploded to outlandish P/E multiples, most investors realized the stock market was getting a bit frothy. Today, even though a larger portion of the overall stock market is aggressively priced, it has not garnered nearly as much attention. A concentrated valuation extreme tends to loudly announce itself whereas a broad-based valuation extreme seems more stealth and, therefore, perhaps more dangerous.
  • Fifth, how important have record low bond yields and a zero short-term interest rate throughout this recovery been in producing the contemporary broad-based stock market valuation extreme? And, how will this highly valued stock market react should U.S. interest rates soon finally start to rise? Many believe since interest rates are so low today, they could rise for some time before negatively impacting the stock market. However, what if today’s widespread extraordinary valuations actually make the stock market much more sensitive to interest rates?
  • Sixth, historically when the valuation of the median NYSE stock has been as high as it is today (e.g., from Chart 2 consider 1962, 1969, 1998, 2000, 2005, and 2007), the overall stock market has usually either suffered an outright bear market (i.e., in 1962, 1969, 2000-2001, and 2007-2008) or a correction (i.e., in 1998). Only in 2005, from a similar median stock valuation, did the overall stock market avoid a correction or bear market until 2008. At a minimum, this historic record suggests investors should proceed with greater caution.
  • Seventh, the current valuation profile of the U.S. stock market argues in favor of S&P-like indexation. When the stock market is characterized by a concentrated valuation extreme (like during the early 1970s Nifty Fifty or the late 1990s dotcom eras), investors are best served by avoiding indexation. Often, however, during such stock market manias, investors become frustrated by being unable to match the strong advance in the S&P 500 Index and ultimately are enticed to simply index. For example, during the late 1990s, just as valuation risk became acute among the S&P 500 stocks, more and more investors piled into S&P 500 Index funds. Today, by contrast, some exposure to indexation seems reasonable. The S&P 500 Index may possess less valuation risk than does the median U.S. stock. While the median P/E in Chart 2 is at a post-war high, the S&P 500 market-cap weighted P/E multiple is still far from an extreme.
  • Eighth, overweighting international stocks may be an approach to diversify away from the widespread valuation extreme evident in the U.S. stock market. Perhaps international stock markets also are highly valued today. However, since most have significantly underperformed the U.S. stock market in recent years, international markets are far less extended on a valuation basis.
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